It's On and Poppin'!!! BLKSEAGOAT vs. ATTORNEYMOM - GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE!!! Hosted by ConservativeBlkWoman

Conservativeblkwoman (http://www.conservativeblkwoman.blogspot.com/) will host a debate between two very passionate and opinionated bloggers Blkseagoat (http://www.blacksapience.blogspot.com/) and Attorneymom (http://www.charactercorner.blogspot.com/). Each will state their very compelling cases for and against same-sex marriage.

Place: Blogtalk Radio
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009
Showtime: 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM EST
Call-in Number: (646) 716-6204
Click here to join the debate

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBBBBBBBBLE!!!

BLKSeaGoat on Gay Marriage vs. Religion

The below quote was a response to a posting on Character Corner in which Attorneymom asserts her disdain with Christianity being associated with bigotry.

Add me to the list. YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY LEGAL RIGHT TO EQUITABLE TREATMENT UNDER THE LAWS YOU'VE TAKEN AN OATH TO DEFEND AND PROTECT.

The same legal right that you have to enter into a binding contract with your husband, to legitimize and codify your partnership is the exact same thing I want. Period.

I want to be able to legally visit my lover on the ICU without too much legal wrangling.

I want to know that if anything were to happen to either of us, that NIETHER of our next of kin could exploit legal loopholes to usurp property purchases and survivorship rights if we have children.

I want my gay tax dollars that are currently being used to support ANTI-GAY measures to be just as valid as yours. I want to NOT BE FIRED for being gay (currently still LEGAL in many states, GA is one of them).

I want Christians to stop being so damned hypocritical when it comes to the selective application of their morality and tenets of faith. Congress made no rule respecting any religion; the influence of the Christian Church MUST GO!

Finally, Perez Hilton is a GOSSIP columnist. He sensationalizes everything. I wouldn't dare call Ms. CA a bitch for expressing herself. She is entitled to believe what she wants and practice whatever she wants. However, when the practice of that religion or belief is used to disenfranchise a group of people already marginalized, by many laws that clearly have a religious basis, it goes against justice and equality Shwana.

You cannot obfuscate the fact that the Bible was NEVER intended to be a policy document. That's why the Constitution was created.

Now regarding the release of those pictures, WHY would a moral and upstanding teenager take racy photos in the first place? Her photos are being used to undermine her by Hilton, in the same way that Hilton's tirade against her is being used by NOM to undermine him and the supporters of gay marriage.

Again, you have the right to practice your freedom of religious exercise, speech, and belief system. It shouldn't be used as it has in the past, to deprive groups of marginalized people equal rights. BTW, We can do that podcast if your ready to argue it from a legal and civil perspective. After all, your marriage was licensed by the State on NJ as a civil contract. It was consecrated as a religious sacrament by having your wedding in a church.

I'm working on a post about this now which completely reverses my passive approach to the gay marriage debate. Nationally, Americans support Gay Marriage 49%-51%, a significant gain from polling numbers in the past. As more states vote to affirm and courts uphold gay marriage laws, those numbers can only increase.

Update: Day w/o Homos not so Good

I mentioned in yesterday's post that I was a bit leery about how effective massive, unorganized, well-intentioned, but poorly planned protests can actually be.

Seems like I was right, but this isn't an "I told you so" moment. It's more like a "insanity = utilizing the same methods every time, but expecting a different result each time" moment.

In CA, the belly of the anti-anti-gay protest beast, participation in the boycott was spotty. Here in DC, many gays (those with jobs) who took off from work chose to participate in a $5.00 12 noon - 5:00pm sex party (I am not kidding). So while they may not have been at work, per se, some folks were definitely "putting in work" and getting their groove on.

Perhaps I should have attended the latter protest. *wink*

I will say this though; when I talked to my boss about why I wanted to be off, she was extremely receptive and supportive. I guess I'm pretty damn lucky to be working for some very cool people.